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Re: [CORE-Discussion] Need Help AADSM issue

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Jim,
Thanks for the definition. I will put that in my risk factors when evaluating patients for treatment. 
Scott

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On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:16 PM, "'James Metz <drjamesmetz@yahoo.com>' via CORE Dentistry Discussion" <core-dentistry-discussion@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear Scott,

Sorry your email got caught it spam for some reason.....a "small framed person" by my definition has a high mandibular plane angle with short ramus height.

Jim

James E. Metz, DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, Ohio   43205
614-252-4444
ColumbusDentistry.com
DrJamesMetz@Yahoo.com



On Apr 21, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Scott Neish wrote:

Jim,
What is your definition of "small framed people"?
Scott

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On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:02 AM, DrJamesMetz <drjamesmetz@yahoo.com> wrote:

We have been working on this with the MAD....vertical definitely alters the outcome on small framed people, male or female.

Sent from my iPhone

James Metz. DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43205
Phone: 614-252-4444


On Apr 21, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Steven D Bender DDS <steve@benderdds.com> wrote:

Could be tongue space

Steven D Bender DDS
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On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:49 AM, DrJamesMetz <drjamesmetz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Steve...maxillary or mandibular, I feel it is the vertical.  Only one study has shown this because it was the only one that separated the patient groups.

Sent from my iPhone

James Metz. DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43205
Phone: 614-252-4444


On Apr 21, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Steven D Bender DDS <steve@benderdds.com> wrote:

I think the data on a CR type splint worsening OSA has shown this to occur approximately 50% with a maxillary appliance. I don't think this has been shown with a mandibular device. (I could be wrong).
Steve

Steven D Bender DDS
Director: North Texas Center for
Head, Face & TMJ Pain
5068 W Plano Pkwy. Ste. 100
Plano, TX, 75093
off:214-2918063
fax: 214-291-8062


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On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Tcasoulet@aol.com wrote:

Jim- At present we only have two patients on Homeoblock although two more are ready to start.  one of the patients in treatment is me ( making some great progress) and my friend rusty Curtis who is as tall as I am and weights over 30 pounds. next pt is a 42 year old female who is about 5 ' 10" herself so no experience with vertical/ahi issues with females yet.  Matk Cruz has many more patients on these devices than I do so perhaps he could provide some insight.
 
tom c
 
In a message dated 4/20/2014 7:54:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, drjamesmetz@yahoo.com writes:
Dear Tom,

I may have missed it but I asked if you have or has anyone done a testing of the Homeoblock that shows it does not increase AHI similar to the CR splint.  Its increased vertical could help a larger person but could cause an AHI increase with a smaller framed person just like the CR.

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

James Metz. DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43205
Phone: 614-252-4444


On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Steven D Bender DDS <steve@benderdds.com> wrote:

Sounds pretty typical of the AADSM

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Mark Paschen <drmarkpaschen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,  I need your help.  Here is the scenario:

I have been working with a laboratory in Woodbury, MN (right outside of Minneapolis) for several years with my orthodontic appliances.  They are an excellent lab, very professional and forward-thinking.  I have encouraged them to get involved in manufacturing sleep appliances and they have made the decision to attend the AADSM meeting as an exhibitor (at $1,500 a booth). They (Intelligent Touch Dental Laboratory) contacted the AADSM and were told that a booth would be held for them, but that they had to be "screened" and "accepted" by the committee before a final answer would be given as to their acceptance.
     The lab was told initially that it would take a couple of days.  That was well over a week ago.  Intelligent Touch tried on several occasions last week to contact the AADSM and their calls were never returned.  I finally called on Friday and spoke with the Exhibitor organizer (I won't list her name here) who said she couldn't do anything to speed up the process.  I asked to speak to someone who could help me and she said there was nothing else she could do.  I voiced my dissatisfaction.  I hung up and redialed the AADSM and spoke to someone else.  Again I was told there was nothing I could do, but was given "lip service" that she would try to speed things up and find a solution.  
     I understand a screening process to not allow anyone selling something not acceptable at a meeting, but this is a Minneapolis lab, the meeting is being held in Minneapolis, and the lab is very reputable.  The lab needs an answer right away because they are planning on bringing someone over from Australia to help them exhibit.  This person has a lot of experience with a new FDA approved U.S. appliance and it will be a huge benefit to have him there.  With much further delay, it will be difficult to bring him over (at a much higher cost maybe).  
     If any of you have any influence with the AADSM and can facilitate getting approval for Intelligent Touch to exhibit, I would REALLY appreciate it.  I plan on helping them at their booth, also.   Please contact me by cell phone,  608-963-7707 if you have any information on how to speed up this process.  They will not make plans to bring the Australian over until final approval is given.  
     Thanks so much.  I HATE politics and red tape!
Paschen

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Re: [CORE-Discussion] Need Help AADSM issue

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Dear Scott,


Sorry your email got caught it spam for some reason.....a "small framed person" by my definition has a high mandibular plane angle with short ramus height.

Jim

James E. Metz, DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, Ohio   43205
614-252-4444
ColumbusDentistry.com
DrJamesMetz@Yahoo.com



On Apr 21, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Scott Neish wrote:

Jim,
What is your definition of "small framed people"?
Scott

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:02 AM, DrJamesMetz <drjamesmetz@yahoo.com> wrote:

We have been working on this with the MAD....vertical definitely alters the outcome on small framed people, male or female.

Sent from my iPhone

James Metz. DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43205
Phone: 614-252-4444


On Apr 21, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Steven D Bender DDS <steve@benderdds.com> wrote:

Could be tongue space

Steven D Bender DDS
Director: North Texas Center for
Head, Face & TMJ Pain
5068 W Plano Pkwy. Ste. 100
Plano, TX, 75093
off:214-2918063
fax: 214-291-8062


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On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:49 AM, DrJamesMetz <drjamesmetz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Steve...maxillary or mandibular, I feel it is the vertical.  Only one study has shown this because it was the only one that separated the patient groups.

Sent from my iPhone

James Metz. DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43205
Phone: 614-252-4444


On Apr 21, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Steven D Bender DDS <steve@benderdds.com> wrote:

I think the data on a CR type splint worsening OSA has shown this to occur approximately 50% with a maxillary appliance. I don’t think this has been shown with a mandibular device. (I could be wrong).
Steve

Steven D Bender DDS
Director: North Texas Center for
Head, Face & TMJ Pain
5068 W Plano Pkwy. Ste. 100
Plano, TX, 75093
off:214-2918063
fax: 214-291-8062


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On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Tcasoulet@aol.com wrote:

Jim- At present we only have two patients on Homeoblock although two more are ready to start.  one of the patients in treatment is me ( making some great progress) and my friend rusty Curtis who is as tall as I am and weights over 30 pounds. next pt is a 42 year old female who is about 5 ' 10" herself so no experience with vertical/ahi issues with females yet.  Matk Cruz has many more patients on these devices than I do so perhaps he could provide some insight.
 
tom c
 
In a message dated 4/20/2014 7:54:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, drjamesmetz@yahoo.com writes:
Dear Tom,

I may have missed it but I asked if you have or has anyone done a testing of the Homeoblock that shows it does not increase AHI similar to the CR splint.  Its increased vertical could help a larger person but could cause an AHI increase with a smaller framed person just like the CR.

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

James Metz. DDS
1271 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43205
Phone: 614-252-4444


On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Steven D Bender DDS <steve@benderdds.com> wrote:

Sounds pretty typical of the AADSM

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Mark Paschen <drmarkpaschen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,  I need your help.  Here is the scenario:

I have been working with a laboratory in Woodbury, MN (right outside of Minneapolis) for several years with my orthodontic appliances.  They are an excellent lab, very professional and forward-thinking.  I have encouraged them to get involved in manufacturing sleep appliances and they have made the decision to attend the AADSM meeting as an exhibitor (at $1,500 a booth). They (Intelligent Touch Dental Laboratory) contacted the AADSM and were told that a booth would be held for them, but that they had to be "screened" and "accepted" by the committee before a final answer would be given as to their acceptance.
     The lab was told initially that it would take a couple of days.  That was well over a week ago.  Intelligent Touch tried on several occasions last week to contact the AADSM and their calls were never returned.  I finally called on Friday and spoke with the Exhibitor organizer (I won't list her name here) who said she couldn't do anything to speed up the process.  I asked to speak to someone who could help me and she said there was nothing else she could do.  I voiced my dissatisfaction.  I hung up and redialed the AADSM and spoke to someone else.  Again I was told there was nothing I could do, but was given "lip service" that she would try to speed things up and find a solution.  
     I understand a screening process to not allow anyone selling something not acceptable at a meeting, but this is a Minneapolis lab, the meeting is being held in Minneapolis, and the lab is very reputable.  The lab needs an answer right away because they are planning on bringing someone over from Australia to help them exhibit.  This person has a lot of experience with a new FDA approved U.S. appliance and it will be a huge benefit to have him there.  With much further delay, it will be difficult to bring him over (at a much higher cost maybe).  
     If any of you have any influence with the AADSM and can facilitate getting approval for Intelligent Touch to exhibit, I would REALLY appreciate it.  I plan on helping them at their booth, also.   Please contact me by cell phone,  608-963-7707 if you have any information on how to speed up this process.  They will not make plans to bring the Australian over until final approval is given.  
     Thanks so much.  I HATE politics and red tape!
Paschen

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