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lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Oct 21 10:47AM -0300

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:32:04 -0400, Dave Smith
>They have learned other skills. I may not expect a 10 year old to know
>who to automatically tell the time on my analog watch, but if I need my
>digital watch set I know who to go to.
Lol that was precisely why I told mine to set her phone and then find
me, my alarm :)
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Oct 21 10:48AM -0300

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:37:55 -0400, Doris Night
>> Maybe in Canada they use those terms commonly but they do not here.
>Well, I guess that's it then.
She's trying to tell you if it's not done in the US then it's useless.
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Oct 21 10:50AM -0300

>I have signed up for a new Scotiabank service. Everytime I use my bank
>or credit card, I get an e-mail asking me if it was me using it.
Then you clicked on that email warning thingie, I didn't because I
knew it would drive me bananas. Unclick it if it irritates you.
"l not -l" <lallin@cujo.com>: Oct 21 02:40PM

> > troubled times.
> also ... do you align your strips of bacon in parallel, or do you
> cross-hatch them? or option C, none of the above?
I weave them together; remember making potholders as a kid, how you'd weave
the loops. I do that with strips of bacon, then fry the rectangle of bacon.
When done there is a nearly solid "mat" of bacon that sits neatly, and
firmly, on the sandwich.
"l not -l" <lallin@cujo.com>: Oct 21 02:43PM

> So is it: toast, lettuce, mayo, bacon, tomato? Or toast, tomato, bacon,
> lettuce, mayo? Is mayo needed to seal in the juices from the tomato?
> What about the problem of non-uniform mayo adherence to the lettuce?
I prefer toast, mayo, bacon, tomato, lettuce, toast. The bacon and lettuce
provide "grip" to hold the tomato in, rather than squirt out with the first
bite. Mayo keeps the bottom toast from getting soggy, while the ridges of
the lettuce "spike" through the mayo to grip the toast and reduce/eliminate
"l not -l" <lallin@cujo.com>: Oct 21 02:45PM

> > I break them in half and make a pound sign. I just came up with that on
> > my own.
> No, no. It's a hashtag!
When speaking of bacon, pound seems most appropriate. Hashtag would be for
corned beef. 8-)
"l not -l" <lallin@cujo.com>: Oct 21 02:56PM

> > markets.
> > Cheri
> Yes they are.
Here (STL suburb), Bob's Red Mill Grits/Polenta can be found in most
supermarkets. However, found is the keyword; they are not consistently
located in store, even within the same chain. Sometimes in baking aisle,
sometimes in cereal, other times in "specialty foods" (which has a huge
selection of Bob's Red Mill products), sometimes in "Gluten Free" zone. In
fact, the store I shop most often has Bob's Red Mill Grits/Polenta in three
different areas. Also, found in at least two aisles in the local Big
I guess Grits/Polenta is very popular in this STL suburban area.
graham <gstereo@shaw.ca>: Oct 21 07:33AM -0600

> Now I also have a scotiabank visa card specifically but that is not
> linked to my accounts, it shows on my online statement as a separate
> item entirely.
I have signed up for a new Scotiabank service. Everytime I use my bank
or credit card, I get an e-mail asking me if it was me using it.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Oct 21 10:04AM -0400

On 10/21/2014 1:46 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> which is in stealth mode (my ISP hates that I disabled incoming ICMP on
> my router, not my problem). The credit card company said I'll probably
> never know how the card was compromised.
Someone in California got my bank card info. No clue how this guy got
it. Fortunately the would-be thief was an idiot. He ordered a computer
at WalMart but *I* got an email confirmation stating the order was in
and ready to be picked up! Of course I immediately had the bank cancel
and issue a new card and they flagged my account in case of other bogus
transactions. Then I contacted the WalMart in CA and explained the
situation. I guess he called the store to find out if the computer was
in. The cops were waiting for him when he showed up. WalMart called me
to confirm the guy had been arrested.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Oct 21 10:06AM -0400

On 10/21/2014 5:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> mistake, she had no time to eat lunch or even wind down which clearly
>> needed to do.
> Do people who work in/for shops in your country often behave like that???
Only where she lives.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Oct 21 10:12AM -0400

>> that many cards. I have gotten cards just because they were giving out free
>> stuff. I once got a J C Penney card that I never used just to get the free
>> 2 liter bottle of soda.
(piggybacking, lucretia)
Since when does JC Penney sell bottles of soda?!
>> would take 20% off of my total. Which they did but then long story short I
>> wound up losing that due to a $20 late fee. I thought I had paid the entire
>> bill off but it only put a minimum payment on there.
Um, making a minimum payment and being charged a late fee are not the
same thing. At all.
> Well I am probably twice your age but certainly less than a quarter
> stupid !
You'd have to be 110, lucretia. ;)
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Oct 21 10:16AM -0400

On 10/20/2014 1:30 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> gave me change for a ten but I gave you a twenty." This is standard
> cashier practice just about everywhere brains are in use.
> MartyB
Yep, it certainly is. It just makes sense.
"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidnits@eternal-september.invalid>: Oct 21 09:18AM -0500

> I know that, but now I'm seeing how closely people read posts before
> they reply. I admit to skimming most of the time but I can catch an
> obvious math error.
Skimming is often necessary. For example if you read every one of Sheldon's
screeds end to end, you'd have no time for anything else.
"Pico Rico" <PicoRico@nonospam.com>: Oct 21 07:22AM -0700

"jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> MartyB
> Yep, it certainly is. It just makes sense.
> Jill
I filled in temp in a job where I had to make the weekly bank deposit, a
fair amount of cash. I had it all counted out (and rechecked) and stacked
properly. I went to the bank, handed over the deposit, and the guy counted
the 20s and put them in his till. I was surprised, and before I could do or
say anything he did the same with the 10s. The damage was done. He finished
and said "you are short". I looked at him with a BIG grin and said "no I am
not". Then it struck him. He said he would make the deposit and see if his
till was off at the end of the day. Last I heard from him.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Oct 21 10:32AM -0400

On 10/20/2014 10:28 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> thirty" or "half past one" is slang. It's a common way of expressing
> time.
> Doris
It's certainly NOT slang. Apparently in her world you don't need to
know such things (or much of anything else).
sf <sf@geemail.com>: Oct 21 07:40AM -0700

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:34:49 -0400, Nancy Young
> > I'm not talking about online purchases.
> Are you saying members can't use cash at the warehouse? Because
> they can. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding.
I wasn't even trying to hint at anything like that. She changed the
subject to online purchases and I brought it back to the warehouse
where non-members pay with cash. *Members* are free to pay with cash
or something that equates to cash like checks, debit/ATM cards, Costco
Cash Cards, Costco Credit Cards**, EBT Cards and of course, their
affiliated American Express Cards.
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Oct 21 10:44AM -0400

On 10/20/2014 9:42 PM, Je├čus wrote:
>> attacked me here. Apparently not wanting to talk on the phone is a
>> hanging offense.
> Whoa. I never realised this was going on.
It's a long, old story. Back in the olden days (1990's) we used to
exchange holiday cards. And yes, we'd talk on the phone once or twice a
year, just for a few minutes. Simply hey, how are you doing? Then
early this year he started calling me several times a day. He'd get
irritated if I said I couldn't talk or didn't want to talk (demanding to
know *why*). One night he called woke me up around midnight because
another rfc'r wasn't answering his phone. I have no idea what he
expected me to do about that. It got way out of hand.
sf <sf@geemail.com>: Oct 21 07:45AM -0700

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:25:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> watches, digital VCR times, digital times on television programming.
> There are all sorts of skills and ideas that we learned in grade
> elementary school that we no longer remember.
First you blame schools for not teaching the skill and now that you've
been proven wrong, you're switching tactics and blaming parents.
You're wrong on both points, but OK - YOU WIN. Do you feel better
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
sf <sf@geemail.com>: Oct 21 07:48AM -0700

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:31:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> They did not teach telling time on an analog clock anywhere that we lived.
> They did teach how to read numbers though and how to write whatever O'Clock.
> That is why I had to buy the teaching clock.
I don't think you're remembering the situation correctly. No need to
blame the school curriculum for what happened as the result of a
learning disability.
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
sf <sf@geemail.com>: Oct 21 07:51AM -0700

> It's not slang; it's used formally in spoken business conversation
> every day. Just like "Ten past, twenty to," etc.
> You live in such a fantasy world you can't even remember the real one.
She's misusing the word "slang".
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
sf <sf@geemail.com>: Oct 21 07:51AM -0700

> >Well, I guess that's it then.
> >Doris
> She's trying to tell you if it's not done in the US then it's useless.
It would have been a more appropriate remark to say to a fellow
Canadian. Use it and keep it all to yourselves. Happy half to you
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Oct 21 10:54AM -0400

On 10/21/2014 7:51 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> too seriously" or just getting mentally old.
> There... did I get that right, Gary?
> George L
You've been through it too, George. You try to be nice to the guy [on
the phone] but he just won't let up. IIRC he was tying up your business
line, wasn't he? Then he slams you on rfc and it's part of his
"persona". Uh huh. I'll never understand the obssessive need to talk
on the telephone.
KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Oct 21 02:50PM

Roger <private@gmail.com> wrote in news:bcadnYzkkY3I1N7JnZ2dnUU7-
>> Jill
> Your posts are showing up two months after you post them. It's not a
> huge loss, of course.
My newsreader shows it was posted 10/18/14.
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.
KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Oct 21 02:47PM

I bought 25 oz of store brand low-fat dried milk last week. Almost $8! I
don't remember it being so expensive last time I purchased some. It's
likely been a very long time - I only use it for cooking and that very
seldom. But still $8!
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.
anim8rFSK <anim8rfsk@cox.net>: Oct 21 07:02AM -0700

In article <m25kel$pl8$4@dont-email.me>,
> >She lives in sin with Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo in a house in
> >Chappaqua, New York last I heard.
> This ep was originally aired when they were married.
Ah. Never mind. :)
Wait - are you saying that ClodReamer was wrong, or lying?
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RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - E-mail Sent By Shekau To ICC

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Arrant crap.

What more evidence is needed to seriously envisage that Boko Haram may at the same time, be the military wing and  part of the propaganda wing of a desperate opposition political party? Any politician in the good books of this terrorist band of Islamic criminals must be seriously suspect of complicity in the band's many heinous crimes. The politician effusively praised in the email should without delay, denounce this endorsement by Boko Haram in the strongest possible terms if many peace-loving Nigerians are not from now on, to consider them undeserving of any place in Nigeria's political firmaments. The politician should be grossly embarrassed and irritated by this ringing endorsement by one of the world's bloodiest terrorist organization.  

More seriously one mind tells me also, that it is a long shot that the purported email is genuine. Its content is very probably a bundle of cork and bull claims.  It is after all, the silly season in Nigeria's politics. The email may be the handiwork of some opposition party's desperate operatives seeking the ballot favors of some misguided constituencies. Desperation is well known to be always capable of motorizing irrational choices and actions. electors

The email does at least a three-fold damage in my opinion. It is damaging to the politician whose political ambition it wishes to advance. It is damaging to the opposition party it is intended to help. The hope must be that it does not become nails in the coffins of the politician and the opposition party. It is very damaging too to Nigeria's image as a country of serious politicians and political operatives.

The email may have an unintended consequence- actually help the party it was intended to hurt. Was its sender thinking? Time will tell.




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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - E-mail Sent By Shekau To ICC


Boko Haram kingpin, Abubakar Shekau who was claimed dead allegedly sent this email to International Criminal Court (ICC) in Holland, according Gistmania,

We don't know how genuine it is, here is the Email below:
First Information Report: Persons In Nigeria That Have Committed Gross Human Rights Violations, Genocide And Crimes Against Humanity: Preliminary Appl
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:05:01 +0100 (WAT)
From: Imam Abubakar SHEKAU <bokoharamghq247a@gmail.com>
To: visits@icc-cij.int, mail@icj-cij.org, information@icj-cij.org
The Head, Information & Evidence Unit,
Office Of The Chief Prosecutor, International Criminal Court (ICC), CM
2500 The Hague,
The Netherlands (Holland).

Your Lordships:

In The Name Of Allah, The Almighty, The Gracious, The Merciful, The
Creator Of All The Worlds And The Universe, To Whom All Praise Belong , The Judge Of The Last Day, To Whom All Shall Submit, I do make this very truthful, most honest and utmostly accurate presentation,
application and transmission of issues to the above subject – matter
appertaining and to the events and occurrences there with connected or
incidental thereto.The Official Motto of Boko Haram Is: People Committed To The Propagation Of The Teaching Of The Holy Prophet Of Islam (On Whom Peace Of Allah Be).

I, Imam Abubakar SHEKAU, by the powers and rights vested upon me by GOD,The Almighty Allah, as the Head of Mission and the Undisputed Leader Of ''Jama'atu Ahlus–Sunnah Lidda'Awati Wal Jinad(Boko Haram)''do solemnly make this truthful, most honest and utmostly accurate presentation, application and the transmission on the above subject – matter believing all of its contents to be the truth, the
whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help us Almighty Allah

Paragraph 1: Actually, Boko Haram(with its affiliates of AlQaea in The
Maghreb(AQIM) and Al Shaabab (Somalia & Kenya) and Hizbollah (The Party Of GOD) Would not have been capable, or have the ability to
carry out some of those most daring and blood- chilling attacks at
various parts of Borno, Adamawa,Yobe, Kano, Kaduna States and Abuja, The FCT, Nigeria if we do not enjoy the protection and authorization of ''The Power That Be, That is The Head Of The Government Of The Federal Republic Of Nigeria and His
Cohorts'' to do these things

Paragraph 2: Actually the first Offer Made to support us Boko Haram by
President Goodluck Jonathan after the murder of our Founding Leader(
Mohammed Yusuf) was conveyed to us by Former Vice President
(AtikuAbubakar), Chief Anthony A. Anenih and Vice President
NamadiSambo. Boko Haram thereafter having accepted the offer, we
received large Supplies of weapons, ammunitions, provision and
fundings indirectly from President Goodluck Jonathan and the Peoples
Democratic Party Of Nigeria (PDP) through foreign and domestic

Paragraph 3: Truthfully, some of the bomb – blasts that destroyed
churches and mosques and killed mained innocent persons were directly
carried out by our (Boko Haram), whereas most of the other bomb –
blasts, indiscriminate by killing of many innocent persons were and
are still being carried out by the''Alternative Boko Haram'' which is
directly controlled by President Goodluck Jonathan and his cohort.

Paragraph 4: Accurately, the abduction of the 276 girls from their
dormitories in the Government Girls Secondary School,Chibok Town,
Borno State was directly carried out by the Alternative Boko Haram
that's firmly controlled by President Goodluck Jonathan on April 12,
2014 and these girls are still being held by the Agents of President
Goodluck Jonathan, until they are to be released to him to score a
cheap political point in December,2014.

Paragraph 5: The recently attempted assassination of General
MuhammaduBuhari (former Head of State and the prominent Islamic Cleric Sheikh DahiruUsmanBauchi in Kaduna was carried out by''the
Alternative Boko Haram of President Goodluck Jonathan, this he did
because he has been truthfully briefed by honest patriots that General
MuhammaduBuhari is the only Presidential candidate that can beat him
decisively in the oncoming February 14,2015 Presidential Election.

Paragraph 6: Accordingly, since the assassination attempt failed,
President Goodluck Jonathan secured the service and cooperation of
AlhajiAtikuAbubakar and two other former PDP Governors (now in the All Progressives Congress) to ensure that General MuhammaduBuhari's effort to secure the APC's Presidential Ticket is fraustriated and brought to nought.

Paragraph 7: Very factually too, the collapse of The Guest House
Building Complex, The Synagogue Church Of All Nations (SCOAN) Ikotun –
Egbe, Lagos State, Nigeria on Friday, 12 September, 2014 was not due
to structural failure or defect. A day before the incident, the Agents
Of President Goodluck Jonathan's Alternative Boko Haram had fused and pasted the latest type of '' Plastic Bombs'' on Strategic parts of the
building ( from the ground floor to the last. The Signal for detonation was only given when a strange unmarked aircraft piloted by one of his Air Force Officers had circled the building three times.

Paragraph 8: Thus the reasons for President Goodluck Jonathan having
to target and destroy the SCOAN Guest House was traced to his having
been misinformed by his Agents that '' The Man In The Synagogue –
Senior Prophet T.B. Joshua '' was providing sanctuary to several South
Africans who opposed President Goodluck Jonathan's inordinate ambition to self succession in February 14, 2015 and also, that many prominent APC members rely on the Synagogue for special prayers ,
anointed oil and holy water that will help them defeat President
Goodluck Jonathan and the PDP in 2015.we have been reliably informed
that the Aternative Boko Haram of President Goodluk Jonathan shall later make repeat visits flying over SCOAN Grounds

Paragraph 9: In conclusion for now, we have confirmed and had
independently verifiedsome aspects of this presentation that we are
not directly involved. However, we are assured of the accuracy of this
presentation and we shall be very factually expose the sponsors and
funders of the Transformation Ambassadors of Nigeria (TAN) and others floated at a cost of N 1 billion a week since 2013 for their
operations within and outside Nigeria. Our Geneva, Switzerland based
legal advisers are already in possession of hundreds of documents
pertinent to these matters. They have been duly authorized by us to
bring up proper criminal charges against all persons connected with
these matters at the International Criminal Court (ICC), The Hague,
The Netherlands before middle of December, 2014.
In The Name Of Allah, the Almighty (GOD), I remain .

Yours respectfully,

Imam Abubakar SHEKAU,
Head of Mission & Leader,
''Jama'atu Ahlus–Sunnah Lidda'Awati
wal Jihad(Boko Haram)''
Kanem – Bornu Caliphate/ Nigeria.

NOTA BENE: The Second Part Of This Presentation Shall Vividly Detail
'' How and Why President Goodluck Jonathan and His PDP Cohort
Assassinated Retired General Andrew OwoyeAzazi ( His National Security
Adviser) on the 5th December, 2012. All other matters related to this
presentation shall come very shortly hereafter.


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USA Africa Dialogue Series - Ebola: Liberian President Writes To The World

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Ebola: Liberian President Writes Very Touching Letter To The World

Dear World
In just over six months, Ebola has managed to bring my country to a standstill. We have lost over 2,000 Liberians. Some are children struck down in the prime of their youth. Some were fathers, mothers, brothers or best friends. Many were brave health workers that risked their lives to save others, or simply offer victims comfort in their final moments…

Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf 

There is no coincidence Ebola has taken hold in three fragile states – Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea – all battling to overcome the effects of interconnected wars. In Liberia, our civil war ended only eleven years ago. It destroyed our public infrastructure, crushed our economy and led to an exodus of educated professionals. A country that had some 3,000 qualified doctors at the start of the war was dependent by its end on barely three dozen.

In the last few years, Liberia was bouncing back. We realized there was a long way to go, but the future was looking bright. Now Ebola threatens to erase that hard work. Our economy was set to be larger and stronger this year, offering more jobs to Liberians and raising living standards. Ebola is not just a health crisis – across West Africa, a generation of young people risk being lost to an economic catastrophe as harvests are missed, markets are shut and borders are closed.

The virus has been able to spread so rapidly because of the insufficient strength of the emergency, medical and military services that remain under-resourced and without the preparedness to confront such a challenge. This would have been the case whether the confrontation was with Ebola, another infectious disease, or a natural disaster. But one thing is clear. 

Liberian President, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf with US
 President Barack Obama at the Oval Office in May
 2010 (pix: CD Brown)

This is a fight in which the whole world has a stake. This disease respects no borders. The damage it is causing in West Africa, whether in public health, the economy or within communities – is already reverberating throughout the region and across the world. The international reaction to this crisis was initially inconsistent and lacking in clear direction or urgency. Now finally, the world has woken up.

The community of nations has realized they cannot simply pull up the drawbridge and wish this situation away. This fight requires a commitment from every nation that has the capacity to help – whether that is with emergency funds, medical supplies or clinical expertise.

I have every faith in our resilience as Liberians, and our capacity as global citizens, to face down this disease, beat it and rebuild. History has shown that when a people are at their darkest hour, humanity has an enviable ability to act with bravery, compassion and selflessness for the benefit of those most in need. From governments to international organisations, financial institutions to NGOs, politicians to ordinary people on the street in any corner of the world, we all have a stake in the battle against Ebola.

(pix: presstv)

It is the duty of all of us, as global citizens, to send a message that we will not leave millions of West Africans to fend for themselves against an enemy that they do not know, and against whom they have little defence.

The time for talking or theorizing is over. Only concerted action will save my country, and our neighbours, from experiencing another national tragedy.

The words of Henrik Ibsen have never been truer: “A thousand words leave not the same deep impression as does a single deed.”

Yours sincerely,

Ellen Johnson Sirleaf

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